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Replace featured photo etc., by, ...author: with submitted by

By taxifunk
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taxifunk
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As often, my browser or the system thinks I am logged out but allows for a comment, which I am forced to make instead of editing my post by that. It is not about blowing up my points which I almost have too many of in 2 weeks not even using my own photos. <br /> <br />But I wanted to express my gratitude for a somewhat altered new situation - a new feature tonight relieved me of problem mentioned above in this case, because it highlighted a good photo of someone else´s who made it himself. So, first of all, thanks staff admins. <br /> <br />While wondering on how to change my new way of handling things, what I can think of is this: I should avoid the photo section a while which I planned to anyway, yet now I was almost tempted to submit more until the feature problem came in. Furthermore, more success less embarassing might just mean using not much more from artists here although they are good and sometimes take it as a compliment. Instead bring in things people don´t know yet from other places that also give me a permit (still cant get into photography with my own time and money, which people understand if you skin, at least). <br /> <br />If I knew I could just submit some pic or wall I like, hoping it was not here yet, and had a permit (believe it or not, several people can have a permit to upload the same thing here because of morguefile terms and such). With 9606 wallz here while I write this, I can only check for title and artist name to see whether it is here yet. If it was legally renamed, like I have to do often, an accident could theoretically happen. Dont think that is a problem here though because here there are only true artists using their own stuff, or legally cooperating inside the site which they know longer, or are plagiators, but no one here legally searches around for weeks to find permit for something they did not make themselves, I reckon. <br /> <br />You might consider changing rules or TOS to only submitting your own work in the photo section in opposite to skin or even wallz, because they often are artistic remakes likes skins also often using permits for what they are based on, no one expects all artists to also be photographers. <br /> <br />As long as that is not changed, I feel like submitting more photos the way I did. However, only if I know it will not win awards for rating or be featured, because that sets bad examples, plus there are enough plagiators who dont care as it is. Winning popularity awards might be different. The more of those I would win, though, the less I would expect true artists to think good of me, leave alone grant permit. Like I said, with skin, oh well. <br /> <br />Dont be surprised if I should base one (last?) logon on something by Ether in her art section, application process is already pending, I wont back out of the compliment she said it was to ask. She is still deciding anyway, for other reasons. Plus Ive got more in takeoff line directly from other countries non Skinbase related. <br /> <br />It would not seem worth it to change your whole system If I am the only guy with such crazy constellations and wishes hard to please. Ill just see what happens, and sorry lecrayon and GG if I made mistakes. I did not feature VegasNight preview 2 myself on the general first Skin page. Have a good week, thanks for reading if you do. <br /> <br />Now I can finally R. I. P. (rest in peace, or wasn´t there another meaning of that word?).

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Taxi: Point taken, I don&acute;t think skinbase has the resources to check every submission for copyright infringments, thats why uploads must be made by the skin author or contain permissions in writing to do so. And that should include the Photography section. <br /> <br />The purpose of Skinbase is to provide artists with their own fully interactive and &acute;free&acute; online skins gallery. Beyond that, we just don&acute;t have the resources to provide any legit Moderation or Copyright Protection services. <br /> <br />On that other issue, what I would recommend for everyone trying to get permissions to use other artists works is this: <br />Contact the original artist and wait patiently for the reply. Try not to put all your hopes on just one piece of artwork, find a few more you like and send out few more requests. Simply because, some artists may not give out permissions for their work, or they may just be out of the town for a bit. <br />

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Thanks for telling me + other users you cared. Just to get it straight once more, when reading Grimspoons first comment here and I imagine I were somebody else reading this, it almost sounds as if I did not have a copyright permit by other artists, either. I did. Always. However, as for zipping written permit into files, often Skinbase´s rather divine error message told me exactly where there was an html bug, even inside my skin. And this happened because of leaving the original permit which came by e-mail and sometimes just was the return of my application mail with more words added to it in the logon uploading descrip to be made visible on my page and even in the skin descrip inside of the logon. So, instead I link to the author who gave permit, recommend him, his title and page, also on other sites where you can not download directly, currently I send downloaders here with more links. I also add what release terms were exactly if narrowed down to, let us say, paysites only. <br /> <br />I know it is no legal offense if I share very popular things on photo or wall paper pages with permits here. Still not completely decisive about my future policies as to this as long as I can get featured which is a mess in that case. Dont worry about it. Obviously I am an exception. And just dont feature it if my descrip says, not be me, it is by---. A daily skin or popularity rating, fine. <br /> <br />Currently trying to get them zoom function back into logon Starboard has a way of Right, my Screenshot, and inquisitive cows. Since that week uploading was tricky I think 10 days ago, when I update I loose zoom. Is it my cookie or mistake? Or cant I update after comment has been placed there? Used to be able to delete and reupload everything clean, then it worked. Can not even delete now even when entering reason why. My crosslinks? <br /> <br />Anyway, nice site and people, my stuff downloads a bit, and I can set up my first gallery, which does not work elsewhere now and is not necessary fast at all. <br /> <br />If another artists says, make skin with my stuff, even morally I feel as ok as anybody with no time and money for cameras and photo travelling. If anyone INSISTS on featuring things by me, skins fine, I was first to create them based on whatever I legally used. If u feature a photo etc., make it say submitted by TAXIFUNK, author Mr. X and thanks for permit, if possible. <br /> <br />And now back to work. :brb
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Yeah, I understand now and I think you are right, we don&acute;t encounter this situation very often but it&acute;s a valid one. <br />I would like to add that I have encountered similar problem before. <br /> <br />For example, if I purchase a painting from an artist, am I then free to make a wallpaper from it and distribute it on the net? Yes, if the painting was an original and not the copy. Whoever &acute;owns&acute; the original, regardless of who the author is, they also control the distribution rights for any copies made from it. But. I still do not have the right to &acute;alter&acute; the original in any way without the permission from the author. <br /> <br />So then maybe it makes sense to insert something like this into the submit form: <br /> <br />Submitted By: _______ <br />Image/skin: a) Original b) Altered d) Copy <br />Additional Credits: _______ <br />Permissions : a) Public Domain b) Included c) Not Required <br /> <br />If the person submitting is the author, then we can have those details called up from the database and form field auto insserted. <br />We could also have an option to make submitted original works available in public domain, some artists maybe happy to give out their artworks to be customized. Sometthing like this: <br />Make available: a) Public Domain b) Copyright Protected d) Private <br /> <br />And then we could replace The Author with Submitted By, but I think more thought has to go into this, thanks for bringing that to our attention TAXI <br /> <br />

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Thanks again for working hard everywhere, Grimspoon, u got me know, glad it helped, no hurry. And 1ce I got my first gallery page over and my first month of experience here, I will be updating with improvements like debugged permits to zip, maybe. Anyway, they are just as electronic until printed as my written permit quotes in the descrip of the skin and the download page until printed, still I good thing you brought up simply because of that being the official clean procedure. In the meantime no author should be complaining much because they did permit me already. Dont worry bout my exceptional requests too much now, everything is working fine in most aspects for me, on the contrary, you have been more than nice to me. And you have so many others to please, I better let you attend to that now and have a nice day, nice NYC views of yours, by the way (no hint). No response expected, this should be the end of the thread, should it not? <br /> <br />If you ever decide you can add things like we are referring to now, another item gets possible: Comparative to that 1 exceptional Oscar of Hollywood´s for only 1 foreign movie a year, we could add one feature or 1 harmless side trophy for those who are handicapped <img src=&quot;http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6039/Tears_by_Lost_InThe_Shadows.gif&amp;quot;&gt; because of not being able to base their work on their own products and STILL manage to turn into an occasional attraction for the site. In fact, that seems to be the whole purpose of recycle bins like morguefile. They even generate their own traffic with that, and people get famous for what they thought was waste by now (again?) because it had already fulfilled its original purpose and was something they did not need to trademark exclusively to themselves for some reason. Everything you download there free unregistered can immediately be sold on CD without a permit. Ironically, if you even try to place a thank you and usage report on the authors subdomain there, THAT means registering and may not even be possible when you are registered there. Completely different system from royalty free and unfree archives we know of. <br /> <br />THEIR authors collect their own points for uploading the most popular scrap. Only reason people dont use this more is even to find and worry about these things is work costing time, and bandwidth etc, anti-spam tools etc. Other folks just plagiate till caught, but we dont want to be destructive and waste time on them, just see au contraire how to get more clean and legal types of new attractions in avoiding much of a price to pay for that...

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