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How do we get more nonuploaders to comment skins without causing problems unsolvable?

By taxifunk
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taxifunk
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Can not edit 1st post, so me again although I know bump is unnecessary and posts here are well responded to. Keep in mind: In the wall and photo section, comments by ourselves might be helpful enough. But there are so many different skinning subworlds, the limited amount of active users can not give the technical feedback especially pure downloaders and inexperienced user can provide us with. This makes a skin foolproof and shows you things we ourselves are to political or friendly to say ourselves. Plus none of us will always have time for APPLYING every technique and its skins ourselves to give feedback to skinners using different applications than each single one of us can be into ourselves at once. <br /> <br />So what help is only the staff liking only the preview? Well, it is help. These people are experienced from several viewpoints including the site runners, the PR specialists, the users and in most fields very advanced skinners view. Yet the better they are, if they even think about private life in addition to all their obligations and official hobbies normal active or passive members do not have, they sometimes and least specialize in what skinning field the updates of which tools they concentrate on, next step down comments by active uploaders who are not staff, though. These groups all know &quot;how to behave&quot;, even to well, in fact, hard to say where the border is, and also often run and watch many sites, cannot always apply the latest species of each skin types update. The best to have is at least also the majority of the downloaders, some of which skin but dont upload, and some of which just apply. We are likely to be on an upload under most circumstances policy with almost no major restrictions before submission, which was very good and vital to me and others for many reasons. The answer to my questions might not be necessary to post publicly, message box may be better than comments anywhere. Yet I am publicly asking so as to reach more readers with my question than just the hard working staff. Not point collecting artificially which contradicts my goal. <br /> <br />I must admit I hope I am a minority and this is only crucial for new skinners and I can trust the download stats. Currently everybodys being polite is just as helpful. If a non registered user really has a problem or question related to why my skin does not work for them, will I ever find out? I just hope things are ok if there were no complaints. If the staff is included in the download stats which I think, correct me if some of that is wrong, that does reassure me a bit. But I dont know, are they boosting me or applying. They dont even send negative feedback to my message box, which they might not have time for or think appropriate. <br /> <br />That is why normal downloaders not skinning much may have more time to apply and compare and comment even 1 of 10 skins, which may be rewarded one day but limited, so we know they are not cheating for rewards. Reward does not mean money, maybe advance in user level. Or maybe someone could test, a thing to be avoided though, moderation before submission. Maybe random checks after submission but including TESTING the function of the skin. Then how could we reward the tester? I know free ways for that, whats unfree is changing the whole site for that. <br /> <br />If my question should instead be how to encourage more people to turn into active skinners, tell me. I might think up some ways for that and sneak them in myself bit by bit. It might just be u sometimes dont get nonskinner comments until 3000 download, sometimes it looks like that elsewhere, then I comment and say thanks, mostly I also have tested that skin then. In my days before I was more afraid to register free some places because of spam and felt whom I to judge a skin. Only when uploading skins myself am I beginning to realize that probably was wrong, which might also explain some of it. I have much time, I hope, too wait. How do u advise me on behaving in the meantime? <br />

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&quot;I have much time, I hope, too wait. How do u advise me on behaving in the meantime? &quot; <br /> <br />TAXI: In the most sincere way I suggest you get a life! LOL <br />But seriously, skinning should only be a hobby. Keep your forum posts brief and to the point because most folk are here for the skins and not for the forum threads. I know from experience, Internet almost cost me my marriage. Now, I&acute;m sure there is a girl out there waiting for the Funk, take a day off, buy some flowers and have some fun will ya! :-)
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Plenty of questions. If I understand you though, a site runner is a site admin? If so, the admins at Skinbase have generally always taken the time to comment on the submissions to this site. It&acute;s something they like to do :) As to why other people don&acute;t comment as much, it&acute;s just how some people are. Not everybody likes to comment. I&acute;d say the majority of site members are just downloaders&#8212;here and other skin sites. <br /> <br />As for paying for special features, I think if members could contribute, they&acute;d like the ability to remove ads. That would be my first request ;) I&acute;m not sure what you mean in regards to unregistered comments too. I didn&acute;t know non-members could comment at Skinbase. <br /> <br />I don&acute;t think that a member HAS to skin in order to be a &acute;real&acute; member. Nor do they have to comment. There are plenty of ways to be a part of this great community. Comment on other people&acute;s skins, photos, wallpapers etc. Or be an active member on the forum. Comment on the news, use the poll or just say &quot;Hi&quot; in the chat box. I&acute;d be happy for it to stay that way. <br /> <br />And as far as I am aware, there are no rewards here at Skinbase that could allow for any skinners gaining a higher level. Everybody is equal at Skinbase. That is one thing I love about this site. Sure, you can be at the top of the download count or the rankings. You might even win the competition for skin of the month etc, but you&acute;re still the same as the guy who has the lowest rating and/or lowest download count. <br /> <br />So, after all that, I&acute;d say upload what you can, upload what you want and comment when you feel like it. If people want to join up, they will ;) But getting more member interactivity will certainly help make the site feel more alive.
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Thanks for fast honest truly helpful replies by the staff themselves, exactly what I needed in addition to a girl plus time + money like all of us. That should do. <br /> <br />Final thing is up to our users, then, not a must, but might be worth trying: <br /> <br />Just register free and comment negative as well if u feel like it, especially technical or suggestions on what u prefer welcome. Most of you who have the time for it and a girl or cat or boy, family, whatever allowing for it including other jobs and hobbies will find active skinning is fun, one day, and so is just downloading. If you have technical questions feel free to keep asking (your tool, how to install, this or that), no matter how strange it feels. This really is an ideal community for that, and that is how to get things working well enough for you and me to get a bang out of it. :-) <br />
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Oi, lenghty comments in the topic. I won&acute;t go into all of them. As to the advertisement thingy; I would pay a little bit to get rid of them (yes, we admins also have to see them ;-)). Though I dont think many people will, making this option a no-no.

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Skinner Boss 019 solved most of this by commenting he tested a logon at my res. + it works fine technically, although its not creative using standard bmps but he liked center pic. Now I can relax + keep on. Not trying to win :trophy . After a total > 900 downloads spread to 19 skins in < 4 weeks, needed that cause this was my 1st skin upl. site in opposite to just blogging + photo galleries etc. Thanks PK fer stoppin in, only thing left I will do is try to sneak in descrips like btw, dya ❤️ panels or full size pic, clock U.S or EU etc. Welcome to delete this whole thread now if u like, or put comment in message box + close topic, whatever. 😂
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Well in order to not run into the problems that WC did, I think that only skinners and members should be able to download or comment on skins. Let the non members see what they could have if they joined. When everything is free nobody needs to contribute, and if there are too many pop up&acute;s they wont come at all. If you give too much away for nothing you end up losing it all. It would really be nice if we were offered the opportunity to donate money instead of all the pop ups. Just my 2 cents worth. :Happy
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2 cents is worth a dime sometimes Cindi. Agree with you almost completely. Allowing non-members to download, I don&acute;t really have a problem with that. As I understand it traffic is traffic. I also don&acute;t think non-members should be allowed to comment. That could really be opening a can of worms and I don&acute;t like worms. No pop-ups would definitely be my choice. Gee Cindi I think we agree on almost everything. :Happy
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:car is now embarassed by his old zombie thread :grin: getting the right attention when in fact we DO have activity and comments, tx for giving it a thought. Admitted, some coffee is good for me too, now. And I love that avatar, Cindy. Yeah, they were talking about that elsewhere, too. I am still happy and all I can do is catch up with my own dated past, its unbelievable. <br /> <br />And true, no anonymous commenting, another thing I currently enjoy here :brb

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Coffee&acute;s on me Tax!!
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taxifunk
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Tax free - tx! Will I ever be able to make up for these nice things, yall }:? :devil We dont even have all the problems we want do we, joke, but there are so many nice other harmless ones - in the future my coffee , sob, could work automatically, but then lets make a café instead. Showing what u get, well wow who knows. <br /> <br />I would take it blind from u ladies. Proves some points I guess. But then everyones forced to show there pearls before u even look at the oyster, hmmh wow. Guess life just happens anyway, appreciate all your long term thinking. This last free coffee aint bad. Slurp. In the future I will be exterminating my own propaganda to sell coffee machines, not to worry, its all great. A talking traffic light= :car jaywalking I will miss. But I see the light. Better not speculate what kinda vision that was. <br />
sed avatar
sed
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I am with Grimspoon. And me? well that WAS a lot of words for a forum. If a viewer is not signed up that is their loss but they shouldnt care about commenting unless they DO sign in 😎
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Nicely said sed!!
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