I don´t buy software because it is overpriced for the most part. Every program I use is freeware. It just takes a little work to find them. The only "buy" programs I have are ones that were generously provided by friends like Mary and Nikos. <br /> <br />Artur that was Ominous June who would have to sell her kids. I thought it was a funny statement but too sadly true for the most of us.
And bear in mind Arman, that from my side , this subject is already a thing from the past. I do not live with the past, I learn with the past, I own the present and I will seek the future. :Happy
You have had our opinion on it and a whole lot more. Which includes our ideas and facts and thoughts and feelings. There is nothing more we can say Arman. :congrats
well i must say : you defeat me dear mountainhawk , i have a big problem, my English Language is weak ! so most of the time i can`t explain exactly what i want to say π’ <br />------------------------------------- <br />I respect all authors and all works cause i can feel author take a time & try for create anythings cause i`m one of them :) <br />--------------------------------------------- <br />but you don`t get the point , i have a big wallpaper & photo archive without any info <br />about Authors , so how can i contact them ? believe that it`s not hard to me that mail <br />to the Authors and get permission but what i can i do when i don`t have any info about these wallpapers ? of course i have my answer now , yea i must give them up and try <br />to use wallpapers that have information about author and possibily for me to get permission <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />i get the point khow dear mountainhawk & Greytata and be sure i never upload any wallpaper archive when the authors are unkhown from now , in past i though that i just share these with others. i have them and in really i don`t need to share them. <br /> <br />i say it again i respect all authors & programmers , in old version of blacksofts i <br />advertise many sites , software and ... free ! cause i think others must khow about these. <br />i never get even 1 Cent for advertising in www.blacksofts.com and i don`t sad about this. <br /> <br />i don`t khow why you always think i search for a way to say excuse ? but if you love to hear this word really i say this for you any times you want : <br />-------------- <br />Excuse me , excuse me , excuse me and i swear that i never do this again , i swear by my <br />family that i love them more than everythings in this world β€οΈ <br />*********************************************************** <br />please stop To talk about me , cause this subject make me too tired , i wish to back 5 days <br />ago and my hands break and don`t type this Topic. <br />when i write this i just want to khow about others idea in this subject but it seems <br /> i just put myself in big hole and every post i send make the depth of hole more. <br /> <br />so from now please just post your idea about this subject and give up me to Darkness <br />
And again Arman...we are talking about respect for others, consideration, not a question of being paid or not, just respect and consideration. Tell me, it is so hard or difficult for you to ask for a permission, on a simple email ?You are stubborn and one day you´ll get in trouble because of that. And I can tell you my friend if one day I find any of my photographs published or used by others without my consent, bear im mind and make no mistake, they will have an hard, very hard time with myself. Besides, I do not have to pay for lawyers or councelours, as my family is full of them - free software and free lawyers, nice - but no one saw yet, the evil side of me and that side, just appears when someone - I do not care who - does have not respect or consideration for me, as I have for all others.Just go have a beer πΊ
You are simply trotting out excuses Arman. If you want to show peoples wallpaper on your site then it is common courtesy to ask. You do not assume it is okay especially when your site dispenses cracked software and serials and keyu generators. There are plenty of artists such as myself who would not want to be associated with such a site or seen to support it due to its criminal nature. Neither do you have the right to deface the image or claim it as your own by placing your company name on it without permission for very obvious reasons that I know you know as it has already been explained. As I said, there is a right way to do things and a wrong way. One way gets you respect and friends and the otherway loses you respect and friends. The choice is yours. You get permission to use wallpapers on your site by contacting the authors. Being in Iran is no excuse. It is called patience and tolerance and doing the right thing. You seem to have all the excuses under the sun for not treating people with respect. Every moment is another chance Arman that you could use to change for the better. You seem to waste those chances making excuses for your poor behaviour. Duck, dive, dodge as much as you like...we are not stupid and we can see through your excuses so maybe, I suggest, you cut the crap and just act in a respectful manner and own your behaviour and quit making excuses. ;) International Copyright law protects us all.Just because you are in Iran does not mean you cannot be touched.
you say right mountainhawk , now i get the point mountainhawk and i want to say thank you. i don´t promise that i never use cracks from now cause I´m honest , but i promise <br />that i never guide anyone to use it ! <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />But Dear mountainhawk do you think really someone wants to paying for our wallpapers and photos ? I think the answer is No so i think we should not be angry if see our works in some site without permission ! <br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />you know there are billion of wallpaper ans photo authors and most of the wallpaper have no any info about the author ! <br />so if every site wants to wait for permission of every photo and wallpaper , he can share these beautiful wallpapers after 100 or 200 years ! <br /> <br />it´s enough for me that someone from some where set my wallpaper in desktop or enjoy of my wallpaper , don´t matter he khow AM.FX is Author of these wallpaperor not , don´t <br />need to mail me or say thanks AM.FX , Just enjoy it even if some one remove my <br />watermark from pics and replace it with his name. <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br />now i can feel who´s the author of wallpapers in Skinbase ! cause every member in skinbase have different style and no one can say which one is better , i make a folder in my desktop and i change my desktop wallpaper every day ! <br />****************************************** <br />one day I set nice work by dear SED , one day use a beautiful abstract wp by kchristine , nice shot photo by alfa30 , lovely photo by Saalien , b/w photo by Greytata , and i have also 2 nice wallpaper by mountain hawk ( white background) and i download & Use most <br />of the beautiful wp & photos by other Users ( Marry , adni18 , srg01 , captain America , ...) <br /> <br />i remember their name cause I´m one of the user in skinbase but what about others the Guest visitors that come , download and go there is no watermark on images so it´s impossible to set copyrights for them. <br />---------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />we have 2 ways : one use a watermark on every image with complete info ( Email , website , name ) Cause if someone want <br />to get permission for image can contact you <br /> <br />two : let your works free like a bird in sky ! then you amazing and enjoy when check the name of photo you create or <br />Accidental Google image search after a few years and read a comments about your works in some sites that are unkhown for <br />you till now. <br /> <br />i love many singers and actors (EMINEM , Britney , Christina Aguilera , bard pitt , ... ) and i like to use their pics in my wallpapers , how can i get permission ? when i live I Iran and <br />most of them live in Usa. Don`t tell me use email to contact them ! So I force my mind <br />it´s ok ! i don´t do a bad things , i just want to show my respect and love. <br /> <br />if you check my all wallpapers create till now you can´t find even 1 adult or +16 wallpaper ! cause i never permission myself to use them. i just try to share beautiful things in life. <br /> <br />thank you again mountainhwak for guide me and don´t worry about me cause i have chance , my country didn´t have a hard copyrighted law , they started to set this from this years and it take a lot of time to change past. ;)
I haven´t read all of this topic, just browsed through it, but it seems to me if we all want to see new, improved software being made available then it´s only fair that the people doing the work get rewarded for it. <br />Don´t get me wrong, I love freeware, but if someone wants paying for something that is worth having... then fine, that´s how it is.
Dont mess with our Buddy , Iain :brb
No further comments on this one, Iain was self explanatory. :Happy |O|
It is not my intention to make you angry Arman. I am simply trying to open your eyes. If you do feel any anger, if I were in your shoes, that anger would be at myself for letting myself down and not filling my full potential. I sense you are capable of far better more honest things. :congrats π ;) Life is as hard and as difficult as we choose to make it! ;)
Artur said it Arman. You deserve respect and the manner you are conducting yourself and communicating yourself to people from that site does not command respect. I encourage you to treat yourself better. I speak from experience. Nine years ago I turned my life completely around because I had to. I indulged in wrongful activities prior to that and the consequences became too great to bear. Like you I had all the excuses and justifications but it still did not make right what I was doing. A lot of people were doing what I did too. Didn´t make it right. Didn´t change the perception that the greater amount of people had of me. I was just a liar a thioef and a scumbag because of what I did. I chose to live like that. The responsibility for my downfall was my own. No excuses or justifications. You have the same choice. To respect yourself or not to. How we act and the things we do in our lives is how others see us. Behave dishonestly and show we are dishonest and that is how we get seen and labelled. We sell ourselves short by doing that. Freedom comes from having no fear. No fear of having done wrong. No fear of having to look over our shoulder in case someone arrestsa us or does something similar because we wronged them. I am no saint but compared to what I was today I am an absolute angel. I do no crime, I help others without question when asked and do harm to no-one including myself. Good luck to you Arman! You have the pwoer of choice. Freedom is there for you if you want it....You just have to take the action. :congrats π ;)
Arman, you are not getting the point: although you are free - as you say - you deserve respect from everybody. It´s a question of respect, not a question of being free. Undesrtood? :Happy
i never try to defend myself dear greytata , i just try to explain that i`m not in the central of this Circle in Blacksofts , in my country there is no hard copyrighted law about software , seems to be everythings still free to use ! <br /> <br />i just explain this in this topic cause i don`t like to be thief ! i khow that soon my freind in blacksofts read my posts and they don`t forgive me ! <br /> <br />but never mind it`s ok , cause i`m not scared from anyone or anythings and i do exactly <br />everythings i think i must to do <br /> <br />I write this subject in this topic just for undrestand another idea about this and sure <br />i must do something in blacksofts or leave it as soon as possible ! <br /> <br />my wallpaper , works , ... all it`s free ! no one need get permission for use them ! maybe <br />my mistake start from our think and we think everyone think like us ! but khow that i undrestand the truth i will be change for use or share other author works but not for myself , i`m alwayse free. maybe cause my work is too cheap . <br /> <br />thank you greyteta for your attention β€οΈ
Well, here´s the answer I was awaiting for. And yes, Arman, you should just leave Black Group and create your own site with your ideas and beliefs with no interference from anybody. As per cracking sites, leave that to the dishonest ones, you cannot change the world but you can certainly change your life. On sharing your work, everbody shares their work for free but there is a rule of thumb between us, artists of all kinds: we cannot publish anything - even text documents - without permission or withouth refferring the source. That´s the correct thing to do and believe that if someday, you´ll find a work of yours, published in any site, without expesselly saying or showing that you are the author, you´ll get mad, make no mistake on that. Next one.... :brb
<br />Please Don´t Judge About Me till you understand everything about me ! <br /> <br />i never say excuse Or Find A Way For apologize , last night i call another <br />friends in Black Group and I recommend to remove the cracks & Keygens From site <br />and i talk to them about this topic and say what´s others idea about this subject ! <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br />i see a several action about this , administrator say it´s Ok Arman ! look at internet world just go to Google and search these words : Crack software , free serials , fullwarz ! you see billion of site that have a amazing archive of cracks & Keygen ! we are nothing ! we don´t create these and no one can Blame us ! <br /> <br />when you see someone from some where give you a serial that you can save 658 $ , <br />you lose yourself ! we are human we <br /> <br />can´t control ourselves in this situation ! we not start this and we not continue this and sure the end of crack worlds not over by us ! <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />software programmer say it´s Like a bank robbery ! we just walk around a BANK , we see the robbers but we don´t call <br /> <br />Police ! in really we save a life of people in the Bank , no matter how much money steal cause bank always have insurance <br /> <br />( I think he is really Crazy but the story is interesting !) <br />----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />the last person of black group , a man that expert in say NO ! <br /> <br />100% agree with me to remove the cracks , he tell us why we must put <br />ourselves in trouble ? <br /> <br />there is no useful reason in this subject for us , if we like to use cracks we can <br />do it hidden , why we must guide another ? <br /> <br />be sure that if others want to use it , they can use a billion crack & s <br />erials sites ! i don´t want any trouble for nothing <br />----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />I told them everything´s I must , so I´m waiting for result , but I see a dark future <br />for Black Group . it seems we are to separate , not only for this subject , <br />we have a different idea about most of the subject ! <br /> <br />maybe cause we works on different category. <br /> <br />i was too sad when dear Jamaunzie call me thief cause no one call me with this word till now but when i think about this. <br />i see he say right and it shake my mind and heart and i decided to prevent it as soon as possible cause I´m designer and these words not fair for me. <br /> <br />************************************************* <br /> <br />about dear mountainhawk , i never want to remove copyrighted artist or <br />trick them to say I´m the author of these wallpapers cause i don´t have <br />any reason for doing this and if you think about this you understand that <br /> i really don´t need this ! <br /> <br />I only share these beautiful wallpapers with others free ! i don´t know what do you <br />think about this but i will be too happy if i see my wallpapers in any sites ! even if they <br />remove my copyrighted ! i made this wallpaper for free to use and i don´t take care <br />who and how someone use them , it`s enough for me some one in some where <br />love these or use this in any purpose <br /> <br />but i agree with you that maybe some visitors confused about the authors and i promise to remove them as soon as possible ! <br /> <br />I´m not administrator of blacksofts so i can´t tell what we must to do about the site ! <br /> <br />the only reason that still I´m in blacksofts is they give up me to do everything in this site <br />About Design , they don´t like to show <br /> <br />their name in the site so you only see AM.FX name in any part of site , they support <br /> me , order me and take money ! <br /> <br />they are genius ! cause in sometimes like this situation everyone just zoom at me ! <br /> <br />So i really think i must register my own domain and do exactly everything i want ! <br />yea that´s it ! <br /> <br />then you can find only my design , some tutorials , some info about my friends like <br />all of skinbase users ! :Happy <br /> <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br /> <br />at end i just want to say thank you so much my friends for you useful post and <br />thanks for say your real idea about this <br /> <br />I´m not 100% honest & Good but i try to be better everyday. this Topic never dead <br />cause Software crack worlds still alive <br /> :magic
In this community there are people known as rip artists. These are people who take other peoples art and claim it as there own for their own personal advantage. It is breach of copyright and illegal. On your site you have several images belonging to Jairo Bedouyn. There is no credit given to him for that work nor I would suggest do you have his permission to show them. The insult becomes greater when you zoom those images and there on the bottom edge you have placed Black Group thereby claiming it as your own. Arman....in short and bluntly put...you are a rip artist. But it gets worse....did you get Disney´s permission to put Black Group on their Nemo poster? :congrats ...Well done...you have exposed yourself to us all here quite clearly. What is your purpose here? To take our work and tout it as your own also? }:(
I do not know why but as soon as I saw this title on the messageboard I said: must be AM.FX thread. <br /> <br />Well, this is a very easy to answer question- although generates sometimes heavy discussion here at home with my kids. <br /> <br />I respect programmers so, if the program I really need is to be paid, well I pay if the amount is reasonable.However, generally we can find some free programs or even " to donate" programs that are enough for our needs -at least for my needs <br /> <br />What I cannot accept is some companies that ask outrageous amounts for some programs that were - AND YES THEY WERE but they are not anymore - considered as the "standard". And for those ones I must confess that, not me, but my kids - with my knowledge - they use cracked copies. <br /> <br />600 euros for a " considered standard" graphics program, or an "office suite" program, when you have for free a more than acceptable - and in some cases a sturdy substitutes - to those ? As Sally once said - I think was Sally - I had to sell my kids first. <br /> <br /> <br /> :brb
I´ve been using photoshop evaluation 4 a couple of years now(I have to reinstall every month etc but I could not afford to buy it but if ever I have the money Iwill buy it cause its well worth the investment :congrats
If you want to crack it, it seems you want to keep the program because you liked it....My answer to that: buy :Happy
Cracked programmes or warez as they are otherwise known is a topic handled differently on different sites. DeviantART for example, in order to protect the programmers of software ban all talk or discussion of cracked or otherwise illegally obtained software. I tend to agree with that line of thinking. :congrats π ;)
thank you so much my friends for post your idea about this , in really most of the times i try to use free software cause as Xav73 say most of the times we can find a similar software ! <br />Free <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />but about some software like Photoshop I buy version 7.0 and i still use it and i don`t think i need cs2 ver. <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />ommm , i see all of you as friend so i can say exactly what i think about it ! sometimes i really need special software and i don`t have money for buy cause the cost of software is too high ! <br /> <br />my income per month is about 200/300 Us Dollars , it`s ok in my country <br />( like 3000 $ when you live in usa ) so with this income you see i can`t buy an some software like photshop Cs2 with 649 $ easily but i still try to don`t use crack or keygens cause i respect programmers and i don`t want to be hard-hearted. <br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />I use Cracks for 3 times in 2002-2003 and i don`t happy about this ! and i wish not happend again (GOD Bless Me) π’
I am confused here AMFX. Last time I visited your site it was full of downloads for cracked software...what´s going on there? π
I am confused here AMFX. Last time I visited your site it was full of downloads for cracked software...what´s going on there? π
www.Blacksofts.com is not a My personal Site , we are a group , 4 boys . i`m only web & Graphic designer and i don`t put my self in programm or software parts and .... <br />----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />maybe you say true and i`m one of them cause we are Group but we have a different idea about this and i can`t force them to what they must do or not. <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br />maybe i must register my own domain but i have problem cause now people in my City khow me with www.Blacksofts.com and it`s not easy to leave This site ! <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br />At Ends You Can Find Cracks & Keygens In Many Sites , It depends You And Your Idea That You want To Use Or You don`t want to Use ! :congrats :Happy <br /> <br />thanks You So Much Mountainhawk For Visit Our Site And I Promise To Try Remove Cracks & Full Software
The point is that it is not conducive to your better interests to be associated with such things. If you are going to state one thong on here and then be party to the opposite elsewhere it strikes me, as I am sure it will others, as being a little hypocritical. Copyright laws are there for a reason. I am sure if you spent a long time making something, whether it be software or a wallpaper, you would not want someone making profit from it or giving it away thus depriving you of any remuneration,verbal or monetary. There is also a thing called common courtesy. If you are going to put things on your site that are not created or made by you then it is couteous, good manners to ask the original creators for permission to do so. I am sure Jairo Bedouyn would not be too impressed being associated with a site that touts cracked software and serial generators. You do yourself a disservice by involving yourselves in such things....but the choice is yours. Freedom of choice and the correct use of free will. :congrats
Normally developers sites or terms cleary say what is strictly PROHIBITED by them. That I cant recommend here, of course. <br /> <br />Sometimes on skinning pages we refer to patches to CRACK or better, HACK something without breaching copyrights. This is often not AUTHORIZED by the company producing the app to hack in the sense that you cant hold them liable for damages plus your guarantee terminates. But in some cases at least its not a copyright infringement that cheats on hard earned payment for the developer. It depends. <br /> <br />Then in fact the way I understand it sometimes lets say Microsoft for example does not authorize changes themselves but have an official partner whoΒ΄s tools are meant for further modulations like Stardock. Hope I am not saying it wrong. <br /> <br />Havent seen AM.FXs site much in that aspect yet. But I think its an interesting topic. Many people are not really aware what can happen if they PUBLICLY specialize in unauthorized AND copyright infringement hacking. This is where you should be careful. Also when swapping files in private, hidden or not that clearly legible attributes often contain parts of your computer or drive name, a hardware fingerprint, part of your name etc. You might trust your friend himself. But how can you always guarantee nobody ELSE gets access to his or her stuff - by accident or not? <br /> <br />German law differentiates a bit in punishment in the - admitted - statistically low percentage of those they catch between big time professional pirates and small crimes for private use. Which does not mean its always ok. And they are trying to make law more severe. On the other hand, sometimes things the companies do dont comply with a GENERAL law, so you might get out of the lawsuit. Extreme talk? Guess so. Just so you know what you are doing.
You are right Toby...and as we know Adobe does not look kindly on people touting keygenerators for their programmes and now Macromedia is under their umbrella the same applies. It is interesting that in AMFX´s wallpaper section there are various recognisable artists and no credit that I could see was given the individual artist yet AMFX´s name is at the top of each page which at a glance gives the impression he is the creator. Very interesting site that I am sure many would find interesting. The argument that there are plenty of other sites doing it does not hold water and would not be viewed as a credible defence in a law court should it get that far. Making statements along those lines is simply an excuse for bad behaviour. Each to his own....I tend to keep away from recipes for disaster and AMFX´s site is one I consider waiting to happen. :congrats π ;)
Stealing is Stealing no matter how you try to candy coat it. I live by the rule no reason or excuse for stealing. <br />If you are taged as a thief you can not be trusted by anyone including another thief. <br />I have a saying " If a person will steal for you they will steal from you "
This thread is really hot and getting hotter. I said that in my house I KNOW that in at least one machine - my eldest son machine - there is cracked software ( amazingly or not, he even can do the upgrades of it in the company site ( don´s ask me how, I do not know ) but one thing I keep telling him - as he is graduating himself in computing and programming - is that if someday he´s going to burn his brain out making or programming any software in order to earn his life from it, if he would like that others would crack things in which he spent hours and hours developing it. And he...just laughs at me. What can I do? Nothing, I try as a parent, to show him what is right and what is wrong, he has to make his own choices and ultimately pay for the wrong ones. What puzzles me even more is that in some software for which I have licenses - and believe me that I have paid licenses for all paid software I use - I offer him one of those licenses and he does not want them. I think he likes to live on an edge. And my position on this matter is so transparent that even when I find some free software for which we can donate, usually I donate, just because if someone has made something that is useful for myself and is well written, I like very much to reward that person or institution. Probably I am crazy - not rich - but is the way I have to thank those people. For instance and grabbing the example of PS CS2, I really think is outrageous the price they ask for it but then, I´ve tried to find a susbtitute, either at a lower price range or even for free. And I found. So...let´s go have a coffee.... β
Arman, I visited your site and I have to agree with Iain, Toby and others: you are taking a big and an unnecessary risk. No matter if you are only the webdesigner, you belong and own the site, so you should not allow things that are not correct. If you say that most of the software you use is free, what´s the point on leading others to cracked software that should be paid ? I can understand - and I do - all your reasons but I strongly not accept them. Tell me again, what´s the point of leading others to cracked software, if you use - as you said - free one? I remenber when you made a thread, about Photoshop, and now I arrive to a conclusion - probably a wrong one - that you use a cracjked version of it. It is not right, as you have the choice to use free software instead. Well, you feel it is not the same thing, that Photoshop is better? So you have to live with it. If you cannot afford it, use another instead. The same applies for instance with Microsoft Office, versus OpenOffice. I bought 4 years ago my MS Office CD and paid for it 650 euros. I needed it and no way, for my way of being to use a cracked copy of it. Last year I found OpenOffice and in some way, regretted the sum I´ve paid for the MS. I still use MS in some machines and OO in some others. Choices, choices choices. If we have a choice to do the right thing - pay or use free ones - you canΒ΄t go wrong, can you? π
Well, I think we as members of SB, deserve an answer from you Arman,specially to the point raised by Iain (MH ). You have the right to remain silent...or to defend yourself. :(
it seems it`s the end my friends , thank you for take care about me & this subject. :Happy